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305777 No.16160  

TL: http://www.mediafire.com/download/qdkvovspxorf9uj/COMPC08TL.ZIP

>> No.16303  
File: sougou-tovarisch-08.txt -(28864 B, 0x0) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size.

Apparently in Japanese schools there are two levels of suspension and Kanna got the lesser one, so I changed the harsher one to expulsion.

>> No.17758  

Hi, I'm sorry if this isn't the right place (or if it isn't at all appropriate) to comment, but the forum layout is confusing me. Feel free to delete this if you want.

Anyways, I'm wondering if there's anything I can do to help production of this scanlation? CompTov is one of my favorite manga I've ever read, scanlated or officially licensed, and I'd love to be able to read the rest of the series in English. I understand that everyone involved here is a volunteer, and may understandably be too busy or just more interested in other projects, so I'm not blaming anyone, I'm just looking for a way to help. I've thought it over several times and I just don't have enough hours in the day to take on the full cleaning/lettering job myself, but I could pitch in by taking care of redraw portions, or bribing team members with free art commissions or small paypal donations. I can be contacted at treetop92ro@yahoo.com for further discussion.

Thank you for doing such great work!

>> No.17759  

>>17758
Phyis, the editor for this series, is out of scanlation for the foreseeable future. If you would like to take over as editor, you're welcome to do so, though you would be expected to maintain her standards and conventions. Short of that, however, scanlation of this series will not progress.

>> No.18224  

I dunno how important it is to post here about it but, as Gulf Standard is already aware, I'll be at least cleaning this for now to try and help get it finished up.

>> No.18459  

Does anyone still have raws for this?

>> No.18465  

>>18224
So it looks like you're typesetting this now? I can take over doing that or if you're almost done I can start cleaning chapter 9 if raws are available.

>> No.18466  

>>18465
The series does need a typesetter. Alice is doing it for now but an additional one would be great. The rest of volume 2 is already scanned.

>> No.18467  

>>18466
I prefer cleaning/redrawing over typesetting so I'd like to do those as well if I'm going to typeset.

>> No.18470  

>>18467

We've actually got two people cleaning at the moment as it is. The Tov-Anon poster above has cleaned one extra already while I've been working on cleaning this chapter and I'll be typesetting the both of them pretty soon.

>> No.18471  

>>18470
so do you want me to typeset one of them then?

>> No.18472  

>>18471
I was talking to Gulf Standard earlier and he brought up a good point actually. Even if we have others helping right now we'd still be limited in how quickly we can work because he's a rather active translator outside of just this series.

If you're up for it you might have a look at one of the other series that currently need editors though. I know Kase-san needs one right now. I was planning on having a look at it myself after Comprehensive Tovarisch is finished if nobody else picks it up in the mean time but it'd be better if someone else with the right skills could do it instead since it'd get done quicker that way.

>> No.18473  

>>18472
so i just make a new thread asking for raws and a TL?

>> No.18474  

>>18473
You'd be better off waiting for Gulf Standard on that one. This is actually my first project for Yuri Project so I'm still not certain how it works. Once that part of the site is back up though you should check the "project status" link at the top of the page. There may already be a thread for whatever the next chapter of Kase-san is.

>> No.18475  

Current Kase chapter is >>17494.

>>18472
I think you may have misinterpreted my point, as I've mostly retired from translating.

>> No.18476  

>>18475
Oh, did I? My mistake then. Sorry about that!

>> No.18477  

>>18475
I'll start with that chapter of kase-san then.

>> No.18485  

Gulf Standard recommended I ask for some feedback here. This is my first time really doing any typesetting so I'd like to get some feedback early on to try and save time redoing anything I did incorrectly later on.

If anyone's got some feedback or criticism on what I've already done I'd appreciate it.

>> No.18486  

Ah, I'm not really used to how imageboards work. That didn't link how I was expecting, lol.

http://alice-cheshire.rocks/test/CT/sougou_tovarisch_vol02_ch08_069.png

>> No.18497  

>>18486

Hello, can I have the PSD?

>> No.18503  

>>18497

Sure. You can download it here: http://alice-cheshire.rocks/test/CT/sougou_tovarisch_vol02_ch08_069.psd

>> No.18504  
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815149

>>18503
something like this but you can check the previous chapter if you want to compare
http://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/comprehensive_tovarisch_ch07#3

sfx: clench
type horizontally then rotate

always have a copy of your background layer

http://ptgmedia.pearsoncmg.com/images/irf_guide_photoshop_arguelles/elementLinks/type_04.jpg
-don't change the leading, tracking, kerning, vertical scale, horizontal scale, baseline shift unless you really need to

Do not make the text too large just to fill up the bubble, but not too small either.

fonts: will be using your own fonts or Phyis'?
remember to change/shift your fonts when the raw changes (that page used 6 fonts)

image - 2000px
“PNG-8”, “Adaptive”, “Diffusion”, type in 32 for “Colors”, “Dithers” 100%, uncheck “Transparency”, “Image Size” type in 2000 for Height 11), “Quality” Bicubic, click Save

>> No.18506  

>>18504

Thanks for the feedback.

One question though: What's the purpose of duplicating the background layer if I'm not modifying it in any way anyways?

I don't know how I failed to notice that the vertical spacing (leading I think it is according to the diagram you linked) got that screwy in spots. That would be due to my version of Photoshop being weird if you change text's font size after having typed it out. For some reason it actually doesn't change the vertical spacing with it.

The lack of padding seems to be the biggest complaint I've had from people who have given me feedback so I'll definitely keep that in mind in the future.

The fonts I'm using should be the same ones Phyis was using I think. Gulf Standard sent me a list of fonts for this series and I went and tried to hunt all of them down, though I had to guess on a few and couldn't track one down at all. (It's in the list I was given as "typecanoo".) And yep, I definitely need to remember to do that. I know there's at least one instance I missed where I needed to change things. (Bottom right panel has bold text in one bubble while it's not bold in the other.)

And those are the settings I'm supposed to use when I go to upload the chapter, right? I hadn't bothered with this upload since I was specifically looking for feedback. I should write down those settings in my notes though so I don't have to go searching for them later.

Thanks again for your feedback!

>> No.18508  

>>18506

> What's the purpose of duplicating the background layer if I'm not modifying it in any way anyways?

it's your backup copy and you can use it when you want to compare/check the raw vs the edited version

> For some reason it actually doesn't change the vertical spacing with it.

huh?

>typecanoo

maybe typeecanoe?

>And those are the settings I'm supposed to use when I go to upload the chapter,

yep

you're welcome~

>> No.18510  

>>18508
Oh, okay. That's a bit of a moot point in my case then. I always make a copy of each page before I do any editing on it so I can quickly switch between them through Irfanview.

On the text spacing thing: For example I had one bubble at 128px font size at one point. I later bumped this up to, I think, 160. The vertical spacing however stayed at 128 and I had to change that myself.

And that very well could be the missing font. I know there were at least a few typoes in the list. The font "rabiohead" was on there as "radiohead" for example.

>> No.18514  

>>18510
just make a copy. the main use of that is it serves as your backup copy in case you mess up editing(redraw/cloning, leveling) and you want to restore something

if you open PS, then character palette, what numbers can you see in the leading and tracking?

>> No.18527  

>>18514
Well it's not like it's going to be much effort to duplicate it anyways.

And I just opened Photoshop to check and the leading is set to 306px while the tracking is set to 0. (And the font size is set to 512px.)

>> No.18528  

>>18527
that's the setting when you opened PS? without a file?
if so just set the leading to auto and tracking to 0, baseline shift to 0, and the scales to 100%. and whenever you begin a new edit, recheck your settings just to make sure.

>> No.18540  

>>18528

Yeah, that was without a file. I'll make sure to reset it though when I go to work on it next.

>> No.18660  
File: sougou_tovarisch_vol02_ch08_076 copy.psd -(1730603 B, 0x0) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size.

I am a begginner and just typeset this page. Please check it for any mistakes and guide lines as to how to improve it.

>> No.18673  

>>18660
Hi, Autumn! Thank you for volunteering to help but this series has already some people doing the editing.
If you're still interested, you may want to check the board or this not so updated status page http://status.yuriproject.net/(most of them are stalled but just ask first here to confirm) and see if you like to edit another one. Thank you very much!

>> No.18677  

>>18673
Ah, I probably should have actually posted here. They (she I'm assuming since Autumn's a girl's name) got in contact with me through Dynasty wanting to clean and I told them we didn't need anymore cleaners but if they were interested we could really use a typesetter since I never wanted to actually do the typesetting in the first place. If Autumn can do a decent enough job at the typesetting I'd prefer to let them do it instead.

>> No.19548  

Bump

>> No.19868  

So... You guys need help with this manga or not?

>> No.19875  

>>19868

Unfortunately I've kinda stopped working on it myself since I never wanted to typeset this to begin with and the person who offered to flaked out on us immediately so it could definitely use someone to work on it. I've already got this chapter and one or two of the others cleaned so I can upload that at some point for someone else to finish the typesetting on it.

>> No.20061  

Can you upload the chapter and fonts, Alice? I should be able to get started on the typesetting tomorrow.

>> No.20062  

>>20061

Fonts: http://alice-cheshire.rocks/tmp/Scanlation/Comprehensive%20Tovarisch%20Fonts.zip

Chapter psds: http://alice-cheshire.rocks/tmp/Scanlation/COMPC08ED.zip

Credits template since I don't remember if it's in the chapter zip:
http://alice-cheshire.rocks/tmp/Scanlation/credits.psd

There's also one chapter after this that's already cleaned which I can upload later. I'll have to go check who it was that cleaned that one though since I can't remember off the top of my head.

>> No.20066  
File: sougou_tovarisch_vol02_ch08_069_a.png -(1506457 B, 1340x2000) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size.
1506457

You sure those are the right PSDs? I see a lot of dust, some obvious clone tracks, and black splotches in the "Episode 8" boxes.

>> No.20069  

>>20066

Looking at it you should make sure that all proper layers are visible and at 100% opacity. The "episode 8" bit looks like I was using a duplicated layer to line things up or something so it wasn't being affected by the leveling.

For the sound effect across her head, that one may have just been turned white or something since it looks like it's actually there. It's been long enough since I last worked on it that I don't actually remember exactly what I was doing anymore.

>> No.20072  

Well, if you're saying it's cleaned already then maybe it's the PSDs not wanting to play with GIMP? I messed with every combination of visibility and I couldn't get it looking cleaner than that. If something is getting lost in transition, it might be better for you to export the image and I'll work with that.

>> No.20078  

>>20072

Gimp can have problems in displaying some teyt, layer modes and layer masks of psd files correctly. Especially when one of the more recent photoshop versions was used to create the psd file.

>> No.20079  

>>20072

I'm definitely not having those issues on my end. I can upload a png version of it later today though. Do you want me to upload pngs with none of the text at all or do you want me to leave the text I'd already done?

>>20078

This is probably the issue then. I'm using Adobe CC and the psds for this chapter were made using CC 2016 which is the second newest version.

>> No.20081  

I would prefer without text. I don't want to waste your work, but I'm afraid the typesetting won't look consistent. I've had issues before with text looking different between Photoshop and GIMP.

>> No.20084  

>>20081

Alrighty. It'll be awhile before I can get to it but I'll deal with this later today.

>> No.20086  

Alright, png version will be up in just a minute or two. It's at the same link as last time.

>> No.20087  

Thanks, that did the trick. I'll try to get this done over the weekend.

>> No.20088  
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170164

The ガタガタ on page 74 is untranslated. I put it down as "gabber", but I'm not sure if that's correct.

>> No.20089  

>>20088
It's clattering of the cups and plates (clatter).

>> No.20092  
File: compntl2.PNG -(352593 B, 799x506) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size.
352593

One more untranslated SFX. バタン on page 91.

>> No.20094  

>>20092
Probably 'slam'.

>> No.20097  

Chapter 8 ready for QC.

https://puu.sh/sFzDB/691bbda00f.rar

>> No.20133  

>>20097
Looks good. Can I release it like this?

>> No.20137  

Here's the updated credits page.
https://puu.sh/sR1m2/5d1accb129.png

I'm fine with releasing it, not sure about Alice.

>> No.20142  

>>20137

You should change "editing" to "cleaning" in the credits since editing covers both cleaning and typesetting but other than that if everyone else thinks it's fine then it's fine with me.

>> No.20143  

Updated credits.
https://puu.sh/sSpH7/e6b5d05478.png

>> No.20151  

>>20143
Released.

>> No.20158  
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225484
>pg 88, thisaway

this way

>> No.20160  

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/thisaway

>> No.20211  

Is there a translation for later chapters? Would love to keep typesetting if Alice cleans.

>> No.20213  

>>20211

I have the script Gulf Standard gave me for the next chapter (special 5 according to the filename) and that one's actually cleaned already as well. Though I can't remember who it was that cleaned it at the moment and I'd need to look through my emails to find their name.

I also have the raws for specials 6-7 (it's one file), special 8, and what I'd assume is extra 2. Though I'm not certain which order those would need to be done in and none of them are cleaned yet. I'll be a bit busy today but I can upload what I have for the next chapter tomorrow. (As well as hunt down who it was that cleaned that one.)

Is there a thread for that chapter already? If so could someone link it? I don't actually check the board. I just have a browser addon that checks this specific thread for page updates currently.

>> No.20224  

Script for the next chapter: http://www.alice-cheshire.rocks/tmp/Scanlation/sougou-tovarisch-08x.txt

The pages: http://www.alice-cheshire.rocks/tmp/Scanlation/COMPS05ED.zip

As for who cleaned this one I went and dug through my emails and it looks like this one was cleaned by Tov-Anon. Or at least that's the name they used to post here.

If someone could let me know which chapter is the next one I'll get started cleaning that within the next week or so.

>> No.20225  

Thanks. I'm probably gonna be a lot slower on this chapter; addicted to vidya right now.

As for the next chapters, order is:
Break Time (Part 6-8)
Volume Extra

And could you get me the raws as well? Can't place text without knowing where to put them >_>

>> No.20235  

>>20225

Yeah, sorry about that. If I'd thought about it I would have done that to being with. Raw files are here: http://www.alice-cheshire.rocks/tmp/Scanlation/[RAWS]COMPS05ED.ZIP

And just to be clear the Break Times would be the specials, right?

>> No.20237  

Yeah.

>> No.20436  

Alice, do you have any other cleaned chapters? I'm probably gonna have most of next week off so I'll have a lot of time for typesetting.

>> No.20437  

>>20436

Unfortunately not. I was intending to clean another chapter like I said but I got busy then completely spaced it until now. And I almost certainly wouldn't be able to get the next one cleaned in time for you to get to it either. I'll try to find the time to clean it anyways soon though.

>> No.20445  
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Untranslated SFX on page 97.

Also Alice, the page 101 I have isn't cleaned or leveled. Could you send me a fixed page?

>> No.20447  
File: sougou_tovarisch_vol02_101.png -(3234449 B, 2293x3279) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size.
3234449

>>20445

Are you sure you're looking at the page from my zip file? I just went and looked and my local copy is properly leveled and cleaned.

Attached the cleaned one to this post anyways just to be safe though.

>> No.20448  
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>>20447
That one looks the same as well. Here's what some parts look like on my screen. The blacks are grayish and theres still a bunch of dust.

>> No.20449  
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1982285

>>20448

Oh, oops. I see what happened. I overlooked it when I was checking my local copy but now that I open the psd in Photoshop the levels layer had been disabled. Here's an actually fixed version. Sorry about that!

>> No.20450  

>>20445
fret fret

>> No.20454  

>>20449
>>20450
Thanks, fams. Break Time 5 ready for QC.
https://puu.sh/uPOXT/dd579f0078.rar

>> No.20455  
File: ComTov_qc.txt -(473 B, 0x0) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size.

>>20454

>> No.20456  

I just realized that I don't have a translation for the chapter I'm currently cleaning so it actually wouldn't have meant much even if I'd finished cleaning it earlier anyways. So this one will need a translation before it can be typeset. (This one's named COMPS06-07ED in my files, Break Time 6 and 7 I believe it is.) I can upload the raws if they're not already available here.

>> No.20457  

>>20454

>>20450 was me, so you can have single attribution for the translation

95
->separate out "super popular with girls", move it down, increase font size

97
That's some Better Homes & Gardens stuff right there!
That's some "Better Homes & Gardens" stuff right there!
[Does this line make sense to people? I know it's a bit abstruse.]

>> No.20458  

>>20457

With no other context besides this post, I understand the reference, for what that's worth.

>> No.20459  
File: sougou-tovarisch-08y.txt -(5916 B, 0x0) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size.

Here's the next one, Break Time 6. I don't really get why 'law of cosines' and 'cosine' are different.

>> No.20460  

>>20459

A "cosine" of an angle in a triangle is the ratio of two specific sides in relation to that angle. Any two triangles whose three angles are the same will also have proportionally identical side lengths, so the ratio of any two of their sides relative to a specific angle will be the same across those two triangles. This means that the cosine of any particular angle will always be the same, regardless of which triangle it appears in.

The Law of Cosines is a formula that involves the cosine of an angle. Given a triangle with sides of length a, b, and c; and the angle between sides a and b measuring γ; the Law is commonly stated c² = a² + b² - 2ab・cos(γ) . Using this formula, you can compute the length of one of the sides if you know the length of the two other sides and the angle between them, or you can compute the angles of the triangle if you know the lengths of all three sides.

Notice that cos(90°) = 0. So if γ = 90°, then 2ab・cos(γ) = 2ab・0 = 0. Inserting this value into the Law of Cosines, it becomes c² = a² + b², a popular geometric formula generally known as the Pythagorean Theorem. Given this, you can see the Law of Cosines as a sort of generalized Pythagorean Theorem: it allows you to compute some properties of a triangle if you know other properties of it.

I hope that clears up your confusion. I hope your statement of confusion wasn't a joke. I couldn't be sure, given the context.

>> No.20464  

Break Time 5 (v2)
https://puu.sh/uZJ1w/2c25640530.rar

>> No.20465  

>>20464
Released.

>> No.20514  

>>20436

Sorry this took so long. There were a couple of fairly complicated redraws in this one that I kept procrastinating on.

Raws: http://www.alice-cheshire.rocks/tmp/Scanlation/[RAW]COMPS06-07ED.ZIP
Cleaned version: http://www.alice-cheshire.rocks/tmp/Scanlation/[CLEANED]COMPS06-07ED.zip

I'll be cleaning at least one chapter for Kawaii Scans before I get back to this one though. (I'd like to try and get two done before coming back to this if I can manage before you're ready for the next one to be cleaned.) I think I just have the raws for one more chapter anyways. It's titled "COMPE02ED.zip" on my end.

>> No.20672  

Sorry as well for taking so long with this. Here's Break Time 6:
https://puu.sh/w8Gz6/a4a6413ecb.rar

Is there a script available for the next chapter?

>> No.20706  

>>20672

>pg110

-panel 2, bubble 1
comma after "failed"

-p3
erase the line above "Woo hoo!"

-last panel, bubble
remove space after ellipsis

>pg111

-erase dark part in bottom right corner

>pg108

Just wondering what fonts you used for the sfx's in the last panel.

Otherwise, nice job to the both of you.

>> No.20709  

>>20706
https://puu.sh/wePia/3b5268efb6.rar

>Just wondering what fonts you used for the sfx's in the last panel.

The "roar" is Feast of Flesh BB Italic and the "crack" is Bucket O Blood Italic.

>> No.20713  

>>20709

> The "roar" is Feast of Flesh BB Italic and the "crack" is Bucket O Blood Italic.

Ohh, nice.

Anyway, everything looks fine to me.

>> No.20724  

>>20709
Looks good to me. Can you update the credits to add musicgod96?

>> No.20727  

>>20724

How did I miss that, haha

>> No.20728  

>>20727
Oh, oops, I was looking at the previous version.

>> No.20729  

>>20709
Released.

>> No.20733  

Any way I can sped up the trans of this by donating?
Sorry for the intrusion first time using this kind of board .

>> No.20755  

i am serious about donating btw. i really want to read this. plz email me at wnmh-12@hotmail.com

i look forward to your reply.

>> No.20756  

yuri project does not accept donations, iirc.

the best way to help speed up scanlation efforts on this site is to step up and actually fill a role. right now, Comprehensive Tovarisch is waiting for a translation of the next chapter so there wont be any progress made until Gulf Standard (or someone else if Gulf isnt available) provides one.

>> No.20879  

Sorry for bumping the thread for something already released but it's the only one for this series...
Can someone post the remaining chapters please? The ones in the mediafire folder posted in the general/request thread are the Break time/specials.



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